Well, you're probably stuck, unless you use console commands to reset their reputation (and even that might not work; conversation flags might be handled separately). Like Sunny, Doc will be easy enough to convince. Fixed an issue where Hannigan and Carter could cause game lag. And Bruiser adds 2 points to Strength while reducing melee attack speed by 20%. When you're done at Doc Mitchell's house, you can visit Victor at his shack and get some extra fire power added to the fight for minor effort. At this point, Sunny will show up. The Powder Gangers, also known as the Powder Gangsters, are an antagonistic faction in the Fallout universe. When dialogue ends, run out of the room so he cannot see the player character and turn hostile. This mod is not opted-in to receive Donation Points. Job letters in HQ disable after their relevant quest is finished. [8][9], There are several groups of loosely organized Powder Gangers that organized quickly after the prison break. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Sergeant Lee and the NCR Correctional Facility New quests and weapons that are accessible even if the vanilla Powder Gangers already hate your guts! Divisions The following list tells you their locations. Close . One may run into him later at Camp Forlorn Hope. Raiding_plauges 5 days ago. They are introduced in Fallout: New Vegas as a large group of escaped convicts running amok on the I-15 highway area, harassing the small towns of Nipton, Goodsprings, and Primm. Overview All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Eddie He won't just give it away to you, however. Between Ringo, Sunny and yourself, you should be just fine getting through this fiasco. Meyers won't be able to be the Sheriff of Primm, and you wontbe abke to do the mission to clear out the Prison for the NCR. But hey, i'm not here to judge. Working on the Chain Gang - A Powder Ganger Quest Mod. The situation worsened when the Powder Gangers stole Sloan's dynamite supply, shutting down Quarry Junction and inadvertently unleashing deathclaws on the quarry and the highway. Updated several NPC Packages and Scripts to improve performance. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TzSmz3BokECan You Beat Fallout 4 With Only A Commie Whacker? This quest is a reference to the song of the same name by Sonny Curtis & the Crickets, more famously covered by the Bobby Fuller Four in 1965. Organizations Fallout: New Vegas. Indeed, you'll need at least a 25 Explosives rating to convince him you're worthy of his explosives, so if you don't have that, then don't expect to get the goods. Extensive testing was required for this, so let me know if I missed anything. Though Powder Gangers almost all have Evil Karma, the larger Powder Ganger faction is not marked as Evil. You could restart and do the quest without killing any Powder Gangers. Valve Corporation. #2 Silverio Dec 29, 2014 @ 5:10am Thanks for the quick response. When logged in, you can choose up to 12 games that will be displayed as favourites in this menu. This is only good to get Meyers though. Version 1.0. Site news (important news will be issued), Comments on your files, images and videos, New images and videos added to your files. Ultimately I think you are just forced to wipe them out yourself and not have the radio acknowledge it, or maybe mess around in console with the quest stages to set the quest to the stage where you raid it with NCR, but i dont know how that'll play out. The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic. Securitron J7-82463 here, under the direct authority of New Vegas' sole proprietor, Robert Edwin House. You won't exactly have the NCR retake it, but if you dont want to use console commands you can just pretend the NCR took it back. It will take precious little convincing to get Sunny involved, but as she says thereafter, you're still going to need more help. It appears that Ringo and Joe are going to come to blows soon, and obviously, you're going to be able to get involved. Head back over to the Prospector Saloon. After the majority of the Vault 19 Powder Gangers joined the Great Khans, the weaker members scattered throughout the Mojave Wasteland. I Fought the Law is a side quest in Fallout: New Vegas. [1], However, as the war with the Legion escalated, more and more prison guards were redeployed to the Colorado River against the warden's objections. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/61592/, https://fallout-archive.fandom.com/wiki/JSawyer, https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/59470/, https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/66016, https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/38897, https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34994, https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37546, https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34784, (https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/50810). In case someone will still read this, I have found the solution for the Powder Ganngers, and how to make them neutral even after them becoming Vilified. Happens every time. The Karma system is , best to just ignore it because the way it works Robin Hood would be the ultimate badguy and some psycho who murders everyone would have good karma. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). If everyones gonna die, theres no reason to talk to anyone. Lee may mention reporting back to Lt. Hayes after the quest has finished, but if My Kind of Town has already been completed, he will be gone from the NCR camp at Primm. So, let's get to it. Go to every location and wipe out thousands of creatures, which of course becomes a problem when enemies start re-spawning. After you speak with Trudy at the Prospector Saloon at the end of the side quest known as By a Campfire on the Trail, you'll learn a bit about a brewing conflict between someone named Ringo, and someone named Joe Cobb. The elegant, powerful, and open-source mod manager, Download and manage all your collections within Vortex, Upgrade your account to unlock all media content, To enjoy the benefits of Nexus Mods, please log in or register a new account. I was not successful that way when I tried to get my infamy deleted with the PG, they still were hostile then. (Hopefully) Made it so Carter and Hannigan despawn from NCRCF appropriately if recruited into Dufresne's gang. There are several ways to go about this. Since you're already in the Prospector Saloon, staying put and speaking with Trudy behind the bar is probably going to be your first order of business. Fixes some blood decals, (hopefully) corrects a progression bug regarding Quarry Junction, edits NPC packages in the Westside base, and adds a new unique helmet to the Mad Minotaur. Had a eureka of my own =). If the player character has a negative reputation with the Powder Gangers, groups of one to three of them will occasionally ambush them south of. The first task is to "take care" of a Powder Ganger named Chavez, who Eddie believes is setting up his own crew without permission. A large contingent of Powder Gangers can be found in Vault 19, under the leadership of Samuel Cooke, although there they are identified as escaped convicts. Eddie Powder gangers shoot me at sight in NCR correctional facility. When logged in, you can choose up to 12 games that will be displayed as favourites in this menu. Personally I didn't know that there was any other option but to kill them all when I first played the game, I kept thinking "damn this is a hard mission for being so early in the game" as I had to use all of my ammo and dynamites to get them down. 102. alfiepople007 1 day ago. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Then wear a uniform and start the mission. (in text form)Well get to the funky in a minute. Reworked scripting for Mojave Prison Blues so that it no longer directly edits I Fought The Law. Valve Corporation. Nash will provide the information for: Hayes will only tell the player character that military orders are classified, unless they already know - either by pickpocketing the "Military orders" off him, and/or by getting the information from Nash first. (5) Join up with Sunny. Moralistic answer: Stealing from thieves means you aren't any better than they are. V19 guys just wanted me to clear out some geckos in the lower level. Then again I was very new to fallout when first played so my mistake. This will knock your infamy up to a level where they won't be hostile to you yet. Patched initial quest to prevent accidental lockout, and fixed its check only working if the player had exactly one leather armor. I had this problem but didn't do the quest. All the stages have multiple possible solution methods, depending on how you prefer to handle stuff, and in the final stage of the quest, you can betray the powder gangers to the NCR and help the NCR attack the place. You also get XP for teaching him recipes now. Most people just call it NCRCF. Added lip sync to some lines missing it. But more importantly, none of them matter. The only way to save Goodsprings and still be able to walk into the NCRCF is to never take part in the fight, let the townsfolk kill all gang members. Talking to him without being able to pass the speech skill will result in combat. Talking to him and asking how one can help out is all that is required to start this quest. They carry single shotguns, 9mm pistols, varmint rifles and .357 Magnum revolvers. Interior is now smaller without anything of worth being lost. Xbox Game Pass Is Having its Best Stretch Ever, The Simpsons Hit and Run Designer Wants to See a Remake - IGN Daily Fix. However, these are entirely optional side quests, so it's not that big a deal. Doing so caused me to lose karma. Could just install the Spy Perk mod by VampireMonkey as that lets you pose as a legitimate member of any Faction with 30 Sneak, Level 4 and Faction Armor. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Also, one can sneak behind the computer on his desk after the talk, back away to the wall, then stand up and walk away. The second task is to "deal with" a suspicious traveling merchant residing at Jean Sky Diving. The first thing we need to come to an understanding of is what constitutes killing everyone? Report back to Eddie and get your assignment. A couple of notes have been added for general lore purposes. I Fought the Law Let the melee weapon-wielding enemies come towards the cart and deal with them at close range. VMS02 He is located at Powder Ganger camp south, which is just south of the prison. Contents 1 Background 2 Organization 3 Relations with the outside 4 Technology 5 Interactions with the player character 5.1 Quests 5.2 Effects of player's actions 6 Members 7 Notable quotes 8 Endings Leaders Normal jumpsuit worn with scavenged clothing and equipment from the unfortunate travelers who came across our dear friends at the correctional facility. Then theres the foolproof approach that I created by myself. (2) Return to Ringo and let him know that Sunny Smiles has agreed to help you fight the Powder Gangers. The quest log and marker should now update on acquiring the Viper Mine stash. It wont in the long run. The Powder Gangers (also referred to as Powder Gangsters by Johnson Nash) are a gang of escaped prisoners operating in the Mojave Wasteland in 2281. New weapons with unique textures (as of v1.5)! Once information has been acquired, one can either report back to Eddie or betray him to Lt. Hayes, and help the NCR take back the prison. DETAILS. Originally, the Powder Gangers along the I-15 were immediately hostile to the. Fixed an infinite dialogue exploit with Floyd. If one instead chooses to betray Eddie to the NCR, one can choose the dialogue path with Lt. Hayes to offer assistance in the assault. Waited a bit and went back and everything was fine. All rights reserved. He will tell the player character to rendezvous with Sergeant Lee, located just to the south east of the prison (on a hill, approximately in line between Powder Ganger camp south and the prison). Can I wipeout Boomers and powder gangers from Mojave by nuke?I did Yes man and killed almost every faction like khans,Nuked NCR and legion,killed brotherhood of steel. Killing powder gangers and feral ghouls spikes your karma so much in the other direction that you'd have to actively avoid killing any to have "stealing" to add up enough to actively count against you. Valve Corporation. Form ID Reward: Various weapons, armor, ammunition and items from dead Powder Gangers and NCR troopers. If yes then you need help buddy. Share. Note ownerships fixed (credit to TwilightKhan and MagnuMspec), Added behavior packages to Krieger in North Vegas, Polished NPC patrol packages and spawn scripts, Edited Finale NPC factions to reduce instances of friendly fire, Boulder Beach popups should only trigger once now upon completion of the relevant skill checks. Fallout: New Vegas 2010 Browse game Gaming Browse all gaming Shop the Mitten Squad store The Real Game Begins Die Cut Sticker $4.99 No matter where you are, no matter what you're doing, you. Discount medical supplies are now added to Chet upon taking the relevant quest, preventing conflicts with mods that edit his inventory. Due to their hostility, the Powder Gangers have little to no friendly relations with outside groups. Kids are like members of my discord server, theyre now allowed to die and Yes Man respawns infinitely. Your best bet is to take refuge behind the cart in front of the Prospector Saloon, which should guard you pretty well against the gunfire from the Powder Gangers. Just to give some context, this is a spoiler so mute for the next 4 seconds if you care. If one has low Intelligence when reporting to Eddie after dealing with the bounty hunter, the player character will say "I got rid of the bunny hunter.". NCR fame, 300 XPORPowder Gangers fame, 200 XP, 100 caps, 1 Mentats, 1 Psycho, 1 Buffout Though a few managed to erase their pasts, most never survived the journey. Valve Corporation. Hereafter, be sure you find Ringo and speak with him, since he'll give you a hundred Caps for your help. Casting Call Voice ActorsCDO947214: Ellis Dufresne, Mole Rat Richard, The Mad MinotaurCellBlockPsycho: Ramirez, Greavessamlikesva: TNT TimboTenwise: Whitmeyer, Ian, Krieger, LyleJudah K: Chuy, Floyd, Field Commander 1 & 2, Med Officer Kristoffiamriverrose: Eyeteeth, Rosettarosewaterwinter: Officer Nguyen, Doc RosalindOther CreditsExploding spear mesh used with permission from Ranaark's Thundersticks.Big Earner switchblade uses a modified texture from AgeofEvolutionHQ.The code used to free crucified Powder Gangers was based off of void_gazer's Decrucifixion.The Steakmaker shotgun's concept and original texture used with permission from furrden2. Talk to the locals in Primm and learn what if anything - the NCR is planning for the correctional facility. Powder Ganger Rusher: An outfit fit for a psycho. Several lines that were meant to fire once but didn't have been patched. The Powder Gangers (also referred to as Powder Gangsters by Johnson Nash) are a gang of escaped prisoners operating in the Mojave Wasteland in 2281 . Then, seek out a bed or use some medicine to heal yourself up before you go about your business, in whatever manner you choose. It can be done, but it is finnicky, needs a lot of reloading, and very precise movement. I never even let it get that far. After the Vault 19 Powder Gang surrendered to the NCR, they were re-incorporated into the correctional system. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEYakRU58_cCan You Beat Honest Hearts Without Taking Any Damage? The powerful open-source mod manager from Nexus Mods. There are a lot of characters to meet in Fallout New Vegas. Wear a powder ganger outfit to get in the prison. The NCR, battered by the loss of the Dam, were unable to devote any troops to retaking the Correctional Facility from the Powder Gangers. However, if the player character uses the above method, all the NCR troopers inside the administration center will be hostile to them from that point on (even days or weeks later) if they ever enter the area without an NCR faction disguise equipped. With an Intelligence of 6 or Speech skill of 30, one can convince him to reveal that he is actually a bounty hunter by pointing out that he lacks a pack brahmin to carry supplies and protection. TNT Timbo can now be given explosive magazines. One can also try to sneak behind the computer on his desk and back away. They are exceptional enemies to the Courier during the first part of the game, unless the player chooses to . If Lee dies during the assault, no NCR reputation will be gained. If he becomes hostile when approached after his guards are dead, try running quickly at him and repeatedly trying to talk. Killing all of Eddie's guards stealthily may allow one to get to Eddie and initiate dialogue without hostilities, as a workaround for the above issue. : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY4GfoqI2-0Can You Beat Fallout 4 Without A Pip-Boy? Next up on your list should be Easy Pete, who you'll either find within the Prospector Saloon, walking around outside nearby, or more likely, sitting in his usual chair outside the front entrance to the bar. I've replayed NV multiple times and never knew the Powder Gangers had quests. After Eddie is killed the NCR troops will go into idle mode and walk around the building leaving the Powder Gangers alive in other buildings. The guns you hear going off all around you are the other Powder Gangers, armed with an assortment of firearms. Game Search ; All Games ; Game Guides & Help ; Latest Updates ; Forums & More Content ; Your Account + Add Your Cheats and Codes / Ask a question + Help a gamer - Answer questions + Pokemon Ultra Moon Guide + Pokemon Ultra Sun Guide + Sims FreePlay . [3][5] Blasting their way out of the cellblock, they quickly overwhelmed what little NCR personnel were present at the site, killed the warden and established their own rule. However, they also have a large arsenal of guns; some stolen, others looted from dead NCRCF guards. The new texture was provided by usernamegottaken.Vanilla NPC's voiced using a combination of NVVASynth and spliced lines retrieved using Lazy Voice Finder.The community, for its modding tutorials.My wonderfully supportive partner, who is the most dedicated alpha tester I'll ever know. Didnt do that, I fixed it with another mod so I got a perk every time I leveled up. [1][4], Under the leadership of Samuel Cooke, a small group of inmates gathered weapons and explosives before rebelling against the NCR staffing the facility. If I remember correctly, On the first through, I believe I only had one quest given to me to be on their good side. Indeed, you'll first need to recruit some help. Read that J. Sawyer himself didnt like how the karma system in FONW ended up. Fallout: New Vegas faction You should speak to Trudy here at the bar, as well the general store owner, Chet, and Easy Pete (as you'll need his dynamite). All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Samuel Cooke If the Powder Gangers defeat the attackers one can speak with Eddie who will thank the player character. You can just take over the prison yourself by shooting them all. Those traits are from a mod. Then, every time one wants to talk to Eddie, run in and talk to him before he has a chance to get up. Copyright 2023 Robin Scott. i think dressing up as one helps, just avoid the guards. [12] The Vault 19 group plan to join the Great Khans, at the behest of their leader, Samuel Cooke, indicating some level of respect is held for the Khans.[13][14][15]. That pressing issue, of course, is taking on Cobb and his friends. - More Troopers and more powder gangers at the NCRCF. I mean, I was making stuff with console. There are factions of Powder Gangers spread far along the southwestern part of the Mojave Wasteland, all the way down towards Nipton.[10]. Alternately, one can change into NCR armor before exiting the building, the NCR invaders will be neutral, but the Powder Gangers will be hostile. Upon initiating dialogue with him, he will give the player character a short "briefing," and the assault will begin. Gameplay wise they do very little. All rights reserved. Follow Trudy's advice and seek out this Ringo character, who has apparently holed himself up in Goodsprings' dilapidated gas station, due just west of the Prospector Saloon. For the Powder Ganger character, see, Do not kill Eddie and complete the endgame quest. I did the mission in the first town where you kill all the powder gangers, not realizing that it would have repercussions, and now I'm vilified by the gang. Log in to view your list of favourite games. This will knock your infamy up to a level where they won't be hostile to you yet. One named Powder Ganger may remain in one of the cell blocks, (a sneak kill if one wants to keep their rep intact). Those brave or foolish to remain were killed or crucified by the merciless Legionaries. So, if this was gonna take a long time, I might as well install a few mods to make it more interesting. Contents 1 Background 2 Interactions with the player character 2.1 Interactions overview 2.2 Other interactions 3 Combat notes 4 Inventory 5 Notable members 6 Bugs 7 Appearances Background The Powder Gangers were essentially the Season 1 bad guys of a TV show before the real, big baddies show up. Fallout Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. Indeed, you'll find many of the decisions you make in the game to meander towards similar this-or-that scenarios. All rights reserved. This is a textbook example of why modding FO3 & mentions of it on these forums is relevant to this day. When the battle is done, you'll find yourself in a karma deficit with the Powder Gangers, but that's okay, because you'll have a karma surplus with the residents of Goodspring. Editor ID All rights reserved. That's why this mods got you covered. There's no way around that. Since you usually don't side with the person you plan on siding against I never considered it, so is there some other way to get the quest or are cheats my only hope at this point? (2) Return to Ringo and let him know that Sunny Smiles has agreed to help you fight the Powder Update for the boys, this is a more accurate way to fix it using console command: Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Install hundreds of mods with the click of a button. Youll have two encounters with them in Nipton, but youve essentially neutered the faction. Does being friends with the powder gangers got anything to do with any thing special or can i just kill em all n wipe them off the face of Vegas as i donot want 2 stuff up my 2nd play-through thanks NCR FTW, Nice then haha but imma do the ncr ending. ], Nipton terminal entries; Mayor Steyn's terminal, Testing, Q&A session with Josh Sawyer during a live charity stream. The Mad Minotaur can now only be spawned during his quest. Form ID It is possible that Hayes and some of the troops under his command were sent to Hope, and that is why some troops at Forlorn Hope say that they got reinforced by troops from Primm. One will gain Powder Gangers fame +12. Philip LemJoe CobbChavez Seriously recommended. Destroy ONLY the sulfur deposits below Vault 19 and convince. Talking to him and asking how one can help out is all that is required to start this quest. If you're viliied you can't. Recently I was purging the correctional facility of the Powder Gangers, and while I was doing that I took supplies from a medical box on the wall. MetalGearGekko 11 years ago #1. Fallout Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. And theres only so many ways I can describe killing people, the Paul writing this right now is unsure of how hes gonna handle that. Faction armour cannot fool everybody. Members Just speaking with him and letting him know what you're about to be up against will net you several Stimpaks. use a stealth boy and pick pocket the keys from the guard then talk to the sherif then hi tail your ass outta there. Technical The powder gangers don't have much reach. You kids arent gonna know what Im talking about, but I printed out a list of every named NPC in New Vegas onto paper and stapled it into a bundle of paper thatd been stapled together by someone with a stapler. I got some Ganger armour, killed the guy at the door and then left. The bodyguard next to the merchant and every guard in the admin building recognises you, so you cannot shop or do the quests for them. By doing this it is also possible to gain the rewards for helping Eddie (300 XP instead of the normal 200), only become shunned (Powder Ganger camps will not attack the player character) by the Powder Gangers (. As soon as one exits the building, the assault will begin, and NCR troopers pour into the facility and attack. Remember that you can use specified magazines for those two statistics to temporarily raise those stats, if necessary. Added a missing audio line for Hannigan. Killing him or his crew after convincing him to move on also does not cause any reputation loss with the Powder Gangers. I payed of the first guy at the gate and he tells me to carry on in, 1 second later e aggro's on me. Report back to Eddie with information on the NCR's planned attack. Can You Beat Fallout New Vegas By Killing Everyone?Mitten Squad Discord link: http://www.Mitten.Land/#MittensMojaveMassacreCheck out some of my other videos if you liked this one:Can You Beat Bioshock With Only A Wrench? 1K. Technical Updated the mod file to an ESM. Press J to jump to the feed. Then you can walk into the visitor centor without getting attacked. Vilified by Powder Gangers, is this bad? New, unique textures have been added for all unique weapons in the mod! [1] When the NCR occupied the Mojave, it was commandeered to house prisoners on a work-release program. But there is something weird here. If the prior options fail, the merchant can be killed without Karma penalty. Why do I lose Karma by stealing from Powder Gangers? Offers a reason for non-evil characters to begin "I Fought The Law". Added Wild Wasteland sound to WW triggers. So, suit yourself. Many remain in the prison and have been raiding surrounding areas under the leadership of Eddie.

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