I am just kind of getting in to "long" range. Full house loads in 7-pound rifles recoil with about 15.7 ft.-lbs. The Peterson 22 Creedmoor brass is excellent. David Hillis The only .224-inch bullet with a higher BC is Sierras 95-grain MatchKing with a .600 BC. var __dcid = __dcid || []; Reloading- What pressure signs do you stop at. Why then is the new cartridge not being offered in a factory loaded round yet? Based off the 6.5 Creedmoor case and that new family of centerfire cartridges, the 22 Creedmoor, while still in the development stage in terms of factory offerings, is turning some heads. So, we took the time to do a little testing to show the difference using a magnum primer can make compared to a standard primer when shooting .22 Creedmoor. Federal GM-215M Primers. Now you can own a small frame AR10 rifle chambered in .22 Creedmoor. We hope the above data will help you shoot your .22 Creedmoor with greater confidence that the load you have developed to work in your rifle not only shoots great but is also at a safe working pressure. They are also the operator of the .22 Creedmoor Facebook page located at https://www.facebook.com/22CreedmoorRifles/. Similarly, choosing bullets with thicker jackets will also help prevent disintegration during flight. The bullet carries a ballistic coefficient of .444 and stays very active well beyond 1,000 yards. I used RL26 almost exclusively and found it to be a little bit touchy. Hornadys taking a long range shot at outgunning the .22 Swift. Hey guys, I'm brand new to Gunhive and I came by references to the 22 Creedmoor. With those slower burning powders, like H1000 and RL26, we wanted to make sure we used a primer with the most potential to ignite them. Past experiences with Enduron powders mirror this experience, with groups often tightening as loads approach maximum. My stock should be in next week then i'll give them a go and i can let you know. The Sierra website is https://www.sierrabullets.com/, and you can find their products wherever you currently shop for reloading supplies. With the below loads, we did have to shorten the COAL of the round slightly to fit into our universal receiver. We chose the magnum primers to reflect the typical powders used when handloading the .22 Creedmoor. It's all about looking at speed and BC together. Patrick shot this single ragged-hole group with Noslers 85-grain RDF over 40 grains of Alliant Reloder 23 during initial sighting in. A .498 G1 BC would make this an excellent long-range predator option. Reviewer Jeff Cramblit built a 22 Creedmoor rifle and tested it with a variety of bullet weights. Mine pushes an 80gr berger just past 3500fps. I shot more than 20 rockchucks that first full day out at the ranch. 40-42grs will probably be your sweet spot. The wildcat .22 Creedmoor holds half a grain more water than the .22-250 AI and is loaded to higher pressures. Federal Premium Gold Medal 201 Match primers were seated. I love mine. Its owner and shooter, Jim Smith, knew the rifle like the back of his hand, and when theWar of the Dogsstarted, it showed in spades. Clear accuracy/velocity winners included Alliant Reloder 23 and 26, Vihtavuori N560, N565 and IMR-4955. To take it one step farther I've been told to use 220 swift info to load the 22-250ai. There are 437.5 grains in one ounce. The .22 Creedmoor (and this rifle especially) is a definite winner. H4350 would be my powder of choice. GunsAmerica tester Jeff Cramblit favors the 22 Creedmoor as a varmint round: The performance of the 22 Creedmoor with 75-80 grain bullets makes it an outstanding varmint cartridge. I have made shots out to 487 yards and continue to push it to the ethical limits on extended range varmint hunting. SUB-2000 Glock 19 vs 17. These were all 6.5 Creedmoor match-grade ammo but the bullet weights ranged from 120 to 147 grains - so the . Both sets of rounds were fired in our lab, using our universal receiver, which has a 24 barrel. Reloder 26 proved worthwhile yet again, printing .26 inch at a respectable 3,202 fps. The Hornady 80-grain ELD Match enters the realm of true long-range territory, owing a .485 BC, and handily exceeding the .450 threshold I consider a touchstone for varmint shooting beyond 400 yards, especially when wind stirs. When I had the opportunity to hold a 6mm Creedmoor next to a .22-250 Remington, my assumptions proved somewhat overblown. Price for a 22 Creedmoor build really depends on components selected. Send your results to help@mcarbo.com! There is a simple reason why. It carried a special short chamber and, by the direction of Satterlee himself, I was told I could increase my power charge by two grains as the barrel is designed to take some added pressure. Shot 2 antelope with my 77gr TMK load last fall. 22 LR Muzzle Velocity: 22 long rifle muzzle velocity is the speed with which a bullet leaves the barrel measured in feet per second (FPS). Accuracy was good but there was no speed with it. Hornady's taking a long-range shot at outgunning the .22 Swift with its blistering 22 Creedmoor bullets, with the 75-grain ELD handloads leaving the pipe at 3,200 fps. At the time of this writing, the .22 Creedmoor is still considered a wildcat cartridge since it has not yet been formally adopted by the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute (SAAMI). Just because the casings can handle extra pressure, does not mean you should exceed recommended pressure standards. Hello all, I am currently building my first 22 Creedmoor and plan on shooting the 88gr ELD-M from Hornady. Speaking for all of us here at Varminter, we love Redding dies. Warne 30mm Rings, Suppressor: These bullets turned those cans inside out. What is the Best Role for the 22 Creedmoor? __dcid.push({"cid":"DigiCertClickID_nrxaWyMP","tag":"nrxaWyMP"}); If you look at the 22lr ballistics table above you will see how the muzzle velocity of 22lr diminishes at 100 yards and 200 yards. I am good friends with a local rancher who grows crops and runs cattle in Idaho. You may notice that we used large rifle magnum primers for this testing. The 308/175 SMK outperformed the 6.5 Creedmoor/ 142 SMK inside of 800 yards, however, at 1,000 yards the superior characteristics of the 142 SMK allows it to perform better. This new round is getting the attention of predator and varmint hunters, because it tends to send the mail well down range with accuracy that is nothing less than outstanding. 22 Creedmoor may not be useful for PRS since velocity is limited at a maximum of 3200 fps, and most guys using 6mm are using heavier bullets and still getting around 3050-3100 fps. David Hillis, Jr. While this certainly can be used for PRS and tactical competition, the 22 Creedmoor seems to be ideally suited as a high velocity varmint round something to replace the 22-250. Besides having created a ton of helpful articles on reloading, and shooting in general, Primal Rights also produces and sells some advanced reloading equipment and rifle parts. Generally the heavier and faster the bullet the more damage it will do to the intended target. I run a 28in 7 twist barrel on mine. As a rule the faster the muzzle velocity the shorter the bullets time in flight and there for a flatter trajectory and less drop. Compare .22lr Ammo Ballistics between 27 different 22 lr cartridges. The .22 Creedmoor (and this rifle especially) is a definite winner. I ran this brass through Hornadys Custom Grade full-length dies, uniformed necks on my old Lyman Universal trimmer and chamfered each mouth on Hornadys Lock-N-Load Case-Prep Trio. Hodgdon H-4350 was touted as an early .22 CM favorite, but it managed only .52 inch with its best load; 37.5 grains at 3,087 fps. That combination worked well when distances exceeded 400 yards, especially when prairie winds stir. At that moment, I knew this combo would work for my varmint hunting needs! I have a 1:8 prefit coming in a couple weeks and need to get some bullets ordered. Vihtavuoris N565 did best as velocity increased, with 43 grains at 3,100 fps printing .55 inch and 44 grains at 3,169 fps grouping into .30 inch. Whether the .22 CM will ever go mainstream, I cannot guess, though the Creedmoor name does seem to carry considerable sway. With the push for small caliber rifles to shoot heavier bullets, I realized that those shooters had the right idea, but were pushing bullets that were much too heavy for the average varmint hunter. Using 43 grains of VV-N560 produced a .58-inch group at 3,295 fps. Find out more about how this website uses cookies to enhance your browsing experience. If you watch the video carefully, you will see that the bullet completely opens up the rockchuck, causing immense damage, killing it instantly. I have listed below a few of the companies that produce quality components, supplies, and rifles related to .22 Creedmoor. The first near .25-inch group resulted from 44.5 grains of Alliant Reloder 26 at 3,388 fps, which also included a single-digit extreme velocity spread. Remington's "Deadliest Mushroom" comes with improved accuracy, flatter trajectory, and enhanced terminal ballistics with the new Big Green polymer tip. how does barrel length affect bullet drop? Rifle: I ran a pile of loads through my 22creed. The notable difference is .22 CM rifles are normally equipped with faster rifling twists to stabilize heavier, higher BC bullets. The following loads were not tested for accuracy or consistent velocity but are just reference points for you to use when working up your own loads. This was the first bullet I shot through this fresh barrel. The bbl I have coming is an 8 twist, so the 95's are out of the question. The 6.5 Creedmoor with 142 SMK and 17 barrel shot inside the 308 Winchester 175 SMK 22 barrel out to 1,000 yards. Impressive what heavy 22 cal bullets can do. Join other outdoor enthusiasts who already get great content delivered right to their inbox. In a matter of a few minutes a pair of coyotes appeared on the ridge line about 1 1/2 miles out and almost directly aligned with our gun barrels. Its what Ive done with 22 Dasher and 22x47L. It has been reported that when standard lead-core, copper-jacketed bullets are used in the .22 Creedmoor, should the bullets be pushed at too fast a velocity, they might disintegrate in the air before they reach the target. The Bullet Ballistic Coefficient for CCI Stinger Ammo is .084 compared to the BC of the Remington Golden Bullet of .125. Alliant Reloder 23 proved quite compatible with the .22 CM, with 39.5 grains at 3,076 fps producing a .45-inch group, and 40.5 grains at 3,114 fps the smallest group of the entire test, .25 inch with only a 22-fps extreme velocity spread. Jake Dempsey New Hunter Experience https://forum.snipershide.com/threads/22-creedmoor.6255624/. On the first day of what I call a research and informational hunt, we went afield with the rifle. In addition to the 6.5 and 6mm Creedmoor cartridges, now there's a new Creedmoor on the block, the .22 Creedmoor. Rocky Meadors The results were interesting to say the least. Reference the Bullet Ballistic Coefficient Chart above. Loren Lunsford Looks like H4350 should serve us well with the 80 gr ELDM. However, the faster you push the bullets, the higher likelihood you will experience a problem with your bullets disintegrating in flight. I settled on the load that gave me the 0.50 groups at 3700 feet per second and proceeded to test bullet performance on some local rockchucks. Although H4350 works well in the .22 Creedmoor when using mid-weight bullets, it does tend to cause pressure spikesearlier than, say, RL26when you are using heavy-for-caliber bullets like the Sierra 90 grain and 95 grain MatchKing. I had a great .25 moa load at 41 gr but after about 50rds the velocity jumped 100fps and the bolt started getting sticky and I had to drop the load a full grain. Im also eager to test powders that excelled with the 90-grain Berger. The system feeds well and allows for faster unloading. bullets and fast twist rifling, usually 1:8 or even 1:7.5. This rockchuck was huge and obviously spent his life gorging on the pasture grass where the ranchers cows grazed. Sierra bullets needs little introduction, as they produce some of the highest quality projectiles available today. The higher the number the lower the drag of the bullet. As you can see the CCI Stinger Ammo has a higher initial muzzle energy but at 200 yards the Remington Golden Bullet 36 gr has a much higher kinetic energy and more killing power at that distance. I have a Remington VSSF chambered in 220 Swift that I am not impressed with the accuracy with (it's about 3/4) MOA, so not terrible but not real impressive either. You are using an out of date browser. And we increased our internal volume slightly to work better with the slow-burning powders [such as Reloder 26 or H1000]., 22 Creedmoor for Varmints Video from the Varmint Fields of Eastern Oregon. One that comes to mind is at 4:56 in the video. This is where I'd start. The bullet weight of CCI Stinger Ammunition is 32 grains; therefore its bullet weight is .07 ounces. In some instances, the velocity SD and ES might improve or worsen, depending on where you are in relation to a consistent velocity node in your particular rifle. MAGPRO produced a .59-inch group at 2,979 fps with 43.5 grains of powder. _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']); The advent of the 6mm Creedmoor immediately had folks necking the hornady 6mm down to 22 cal and upon doing so found virtually the perfect case capacity for heavy weight .224 bullets. I do not think I will ever move away from this speedster. In addition to our data sheet, we have included a few of these loads, complete with their associated pressures and velocities, below. Clearwater, Florida 33760, Text: 727-486-3517(applicable for text messaging only), 2021 M*CARBO All Rights Reserved | Terms & Conditions, If you feel that you've received this message in error, please. The 22 Creedmoor is basically a factory-developed wildcat round by Hornady. Vihtavuoris N565 didnt produce a noteworthy group until it hit maximum, with 45 grains printing .46 inch at 3,257 with a 38-fps extreme velocity spread. Chances are, cleaning frequency is 25-35 roundsand I hope you have a bore scope! This takes place not with the Swifts lightweight 55-grain bullets, but heavy weights that run into the 75- and 80-plus grain weights. ), assuring this outfit would shoot its very best. As the .22 Creedmoor has grown in popularity, so has the number of companies that produce components and rifles designed for, and chambered in, the new caliber. Hornady offers the bullets, cases and dies. Looks like your connection to Gunhive was lost, please wait while we try to reconnect. Another way we provide support is by investing in the equipment necessary to test the products we produce, so we can provide technical information to those who need it. For reference, note that, after we gathered all of our test data, we searched popular internet forums to gather information about loads that shooters were currently using in their .22 Creedmoor rifles. Since the .22 Creedmoor is not a typical magnum cartridge, we thought it would be helpful to explain why we chose to use large rifle magnum primers instead of standard large rifle primers. That way, the only difference between the two sets of 5 rounds was the type of primer used. Increasing that charge to 42 grains resulted in 3,443 fps, but a larger .66-inch group with a slightly lower extreme velocity spread. Just a note on the reloading dies I am using. This cartridge is not much different than the 85 year old 220 swift. Loaded ammunition is available with bullets in the 70-75 range leaving 24 barrels at velocities around 3400+ fps, a bit more conservative than personal hand-loading, but still making it a very flat shooting, low recoiling round delivering impressive results., Jeff says the 22 Creedmoor will also work for PRS with heavier bullets: I built the 22 CM to be a dual-purpose gun, or actually a 3-purpose gun. Rl26 is you can find it. Starline 6mm Creedmoor Brass Large Primer (necking down is a very simple process and Starline holds up to the resizing very well) The only changes Ive encountered in handloading for this cartridge was with my second test rifle a scratch-build custom from Satterlee Arms in Deadwood, South Dakota. I started by gathering required parts: a new Remington 700 .308 action, Timney Trigger, PROOF Research barrel blank with a 1:7 twist (ordered through stockysstocks.com), a Stockys AccuBlock EuroMatch adjustable cheekpiece laminated stock and a MAGPUL magazine well kit with a PMag 10-round box magazine. H1000 was very slow in my long barreled medium capacity cased rifles. However some ammo-makers are producing 22 Creedmoor loaded ammo right now: Copper Creek, Gunwerks, and Spark Munitions. As with any new wildcat cartridge, its difficult to determine where actual maximum loads lay without the benefit of pressure equipment, or at least factory ammunition to use as a baseline for measured case expansion. Since its inception in 2007, the 6.5 Creedmoordeveloped by Hornadyhas seen meteoric growth in its popularity. Extremely consistent, American-made brass rifle casings and ammunition, designed for long-distance shooters. At the time of this writing, there isnt a factory rifle in the new hot rod super .22, but hang on as I believe that is just around the corner. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. 22 LR Muzzle Velocity: 22 long rifle muzzle velocity is the speed with which a bullet leaves the barrel measured in feet per second (FPS). Reloder 17 Powder (or 22-250AI, as capacity should be the same) I'm leaning/aiming to push the 80 ELD-M, with G1 BC over .5 according to Kestrel/AB. He is also a reseller of Barnard Actions, Peterson Cartridge rifle brass, loaded ammunition, and projectiles. Muzzle velocity changes per inch of barrel length ranged from 6 ft/sec per inch between 20 and 19 inches to 63 ft/sec per inch between 19 and 18 inches. I'm hoping it will be a laser out to about 400 if I zero at 200 for hunting purposes when I may not have time to get a positive range. None of the Big-Five rifle makers have expressed interest in the .22 Creedmoor at this time. With its 55 grain or lighter bullet and laser-like trajectory, the 22-250 is a varmint round through and through. 22, 6mm and 2 6.5s. Also, the faster you push the bullets, in general, the shorter your barrel life will be. Primal Rights is also a reseller of Tangent Theta optics, as well as offering marksmanship training at their facility located in South Dakota. What kind of velocity are you guys getting with the 75s or 80s out of the Creedmoor? Shooters World Long Rifle, using loads developed on QuickLoad by Rob Behr, proved pretty consistent, the best group resulting from 35 grains at 2,960 fps (.46-inch); 37 grains at 3,132 fps produced a .50-inch group with a 12-fps extreme velocity spread. With the help of our other Varminter brother, David H., we developed a load in QuickLoad that I used to create the first loads for accuracy testing. More often than not, the fastest load is not the most accurate load. bare muzzle). The 22 Creedmoor's' standard is a 1-in-7/1-8-inch fast-twist barrel, combined with the increased case volume to push long and heavy .22 bullets at over at 3,450 feet per second. Case capacity very similar to 22-250 AI. Bryan Joey Fielder The 22 Creedmoor will likely be 1-8" twist, for the windy days and 243AI will be fast twist to hit 'em hard in close. Big magnums it's my go to powder. New casings were used for both tests. 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